SHEOL KNOW!

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1. Miles

   April 14, 2023 at 10:57 pm

   Hi Mr Waren what do you make of people like Mary Baxter and Bill Weise who claim to have gone to Hell?

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   • Dirk Waren

     April 16, 2023 at 12:18 am

     Hi Miles.

     While evangelization and genuine repentance are always good, these people who have supernatural experiences about Sheol/Hades (not Gehenna/the Lake of Fire) beg the question: Why did the LORD wait almost 2000 years after the biblical canon was completed to reveal these horrifying details about the nature of Sheol? If their visions (or experiences) are to be believed, why aren’t there similar such descriptions of Sheol in the Bible, the Word of God?

     Everything God wants us to know about Sheol has already been revealed in the Holy Scriptures. This is in line with the apostle Paul’s doctrinal rule: “Do not go beyond what is written” (1 Corinthians 4:6), which explains why this book — SHEOL KNOW — focuses exclusively on what God’s Word says on the subject from Genesis to Revelation and not the dubious testimonies of people who claim to have visions or experiences that just so happen to wholly disagree with what God’s Word plainly teaches.

     I call this tendency to formulate vital doctrine based on dubious visions/experiences the “Eliphaz syndrome.” If you’re not familiar with Eliphaz, he was one of Job’s three “friends” whom the LORD accused of folly in what they said to their suffering friend (Job 42:7-8). Eliphaz was the one who made claims based on mysterious visions/experiences (Job 4:12-21). We can extend mercy to Eliphaz since there wasn’t much, if any, Scripture for him to rely on back then. But modern-day believers have ready access to the entire canon of God’s Word for the purpose of determining proper doctrine and correcting false doctrine (2 Timothy 3:16-17). So we have no excuse.

     Bill Wiese’ book and similar ones, including Mary Baxter’s book, are commented on in SHEOL KNOW in this chapter, just scroll down to the section titled What about People who Claim to have Visited Sheol Literally or in a Vision? (it’s a long chapter and this section is located near the end, but you can’t miss it since the cover of 23 Minutes in Hell is featured in it).

     Your Servant,

2. Miles

   April 14, 2023 at 10:55 pm

   Hi Mr Waren I’m reading your book Hell Know I really like this book.

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   • Dirk Waren

     April 16, 2023 at 12:17 am

     Thanks, Miles.

3. Mary

   May 5, 2021 at 10:31 pm

   Good day Sir Dirk,

   I just wanna ask where do souls of spriritually regenerated individuals go.
   Do they go directly to heaven waiting for the resurrection day? Or they go to sheol?

   Are the spiritually regenerated individuals those who accept Jesust Christ as their personal savior?

   Thank you.

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   • Dirk Waren

     May 6, 2021 at 12:43 am

     Hi Mary.

     The answer to your second question is yes (John 3:3, 3:6, Titus 3:5 & 2 Timothy 1:10).

     The answer to your first question is detailed in Chapter Ten of SHEOL KNOW, which isn’t included on this website, but you can read it here.

     Your Servant,

4. Tom Buttram

   July 20, 2020 at 6:28 pm

   Hi Dirk: My book is called THE COMING CHRIST, and you can view it at thecomingchrist.com as well as my Glossary of Terms. Studying prophecy is exciting, though I didn’t chose to do it, I was knocked off my stump of misunderstanding about the things to come.
   After reading just a little of your interpretation of the First Resurrection, I would like to suggest something different.
   I was puzzled about Daniel 12:2 when he said that ” at that time, many shall be raised, some to eternal life and some to everlasting contempt. I puzzled over this hard. I was in Haiti and I knelt at my bed and asked the Lord what this meant by the “many”. I have for decades, heard preachers say that that word was in error and it should be “all”. In answer to my prayer I stuck my thumb in the Bible and it opened to Rev. 20 and verse 5 was illuminated. I read, “And after the thousand years are complete, the rest of the dead shall rise. This is the First Resurrection.” I have always been puzzled what would happen to my baby girl who had no chance to receive Christ, and Haitians told me that the little ones would go the way of their parents, but that didn’t seem fair.
   Then I read further and in verse 7 I see that Satan is loosed for a little season to go about to deceive the nations. But how can he do that since “blessed are they who live in the 1000 years and who are of the First Resurrection.” And I also remember that at the coming of Christ, (Rev. 11:17) the elders rejoice because Christ has taken back His Power. Wow! That’s it, The little ones and they who were robbed of their choice are raised to see and choose Christ. Satan is foiled, goes back to raise from Hades, Gog and Magog and they come back for one last battle, but God destroys them with fire and immediately the Second Resurrection occurs.
   The First Resurrection is a process, not an event: Christ being the First Fruits, the Redeemed at His Coming are the Harvest, and those raised after the Millennium are the Gleanings. The 1st Resurrection is complete as stated in the last sentence of verse 5, “This is the First Resurrection,” meaning that it is now completed!
   I am not here to argue, just present something that has become very real and encouraging to me.
   God Bless

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   • Dirk Waren

     July 21, 2020 at 4:21 pm

     Hi Tom.

     Thanks for the feedback and may the LORD bless your service in the kingdom!

     As far as the definition of the “first resurrection” goes, I stand by what is detailed in this chapter of SHEOL KNOW.

     Here’s how the NIV renders Revelation 20:4-6:

     They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.

     While there’s only one resurrection of the unrighteous (Revelation 20:11-15), the resurrection of the righteous takes place in stages, as you point out, which correspond to the analogy of a harvest…

     In biblical times the harvest took place in three basic stages: 1. the firstfruits, 2. the main harvest, and 3. the gleanings. The harvest began with the firstfruits, which concerned the first fruits and grains to ripen in the season and were offered to the LORD as a sacrifice of thanksgiving (Exodus 23:16,19). Later came the general harvest (Exodus 23:16) and, lastly, the gleanings, which were leftovers for the poor and needy (Leviticus 19:9-10). I realize you know this; I’m just including it for other readers.

     Relating this to the resurrection of the righteous — the first resurrection — Christ is the firstfruits (1 Corinthians 15:21-23) while the main harvest occurs at the rapture ( 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18) and the gleaning refers to the righteous who were not included in the main harvest and are, as such, “leftovers.”

     If the resurrection of righteous is the “first resurrection” then that naturally makes the resurrection of the unrighteous the second resurrection (Revelation 20:11-15).

     The issue of what happens to babies or kids who die before the “age of accountability” is addressed in HELL KNOW in this chapter (the unabridged print version anyway; I can’t remember if it’s included in the web-version). We know that God does not hold children accountable until they reach the age of accountability. Before the age of accountability children are spiritually alive; after the age of accountability they’re spiritually dead (Paul seems to imply this in Romans 7:9). Thus, if children die before the age of accountability, they will not be held accountable for their sins. Does this mean that they are guaranteed eternal life? Not necessarily since they died before having the capacity as an adult to willing accept the gospel, regeneration, reconciliation and eternal life, although it likely means they don’t go to Sheol when they die .

     This is why I theorize in this chapter of HELL KNOW (the unabridged version) that there will be a “simulation test” for those applicable, which would include kids who died before the age of accountability. In this “simulation” God would properly verify if they would receive the gospel of reconciliation or reject it in favor of sin. Such a simulation would be a reproduction of life on earth. The people who would qualify for such an enactment would include those who died as kids because they never had the chance to experience the trials & temptations of life and therefore never had the opportunity to reject the LORD. After all, it wouldn’t be fair that such people would attain eternal life when, in fact, they would have rejected reconciliation if they had actually lived and were given the opportunity. Are you with me?

     For those who argue that such a simulation is incredulous, remember that God is the Almighty who can do anything. It would be nothing for our Creator to put people through such a simulation.

     For those who argue that the notion is unbiblical, remember that it all has to do with God’s just judgment concerning people’s eternal destiny — granting them either eternal life or everlasting destruction (James 4:12). Is there anything more important than such a decision? The Bible matter-of-factly states that righteousness and justice are the foundation of the LORD’s throne and he will judge the world in righteousness and equity, meaning fairness, ethicality and impartiality (Psalm 97:2 & 98:9). As such, everyone must have an actual fair shot at receiving the message of reconciliation and eternal life, or rejecting it.

     The Bible says that “man is destined to die once, and after that to face the judgment” (Hebrews 9:27) and God will need proper information in order to make a just judgment about people’s eternal destiny. If he doesn’t have that data, like in cases of children who die before the age of accountability, then he’ll have to obtain it through some kind of simulation. One way or another he will acquire that information because he cannot make a just judgment without it.

     As far as the first resurrection goes, those that physically died before the age of accountability who ultimately embrace the message of Christ and receive eternal life would be categorized as gleanings.

     Thanks again for writing, Tom, and sharing your theories. God bless your studies & service!

     Your Servant,